Meeting # 3465 Jan 8, 2004 PDF Print E-mail

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Karl Lembke, Scribe

Beneath the watchful eyes of Big Brother,

Meeting number 3465 came to order at 20:10:46.

Special Orders of Business: One brought to Charlie's attention. Stephen Hawking's birthday.

The Menace were read and approved as "...amonga!".

The Registrar: announced no new guests!

Tonight's Patron Saint:

The President led the praise for Patron Saint Bruce Pelz, "one I actually met and knew for all too short a time." (As did we all – Karl)

Larry Niven: He was the core of sf fandom here and across the country. He was SMOF #2.

Karen Anderson: He was the most erudite fan she ever knew. She knew him from 50s from APAs, and spent all too little time in his company. She'd hoped to get to know him better when she moved down here. NESFA's new edition of Silverlock, to be published next month, will include the music he put songs to.

When Bruce was here selling books, he pointed Joe Zeff to series of mysteries it would never have occurred to him to look at. He was a collector of collections. He collected ribbons on conventions. He'd been at a con with "The Ribbon Bruce Will Not Get." He got one.

CLJII: He was not a man to do things by half measures. He was the fellow who told him it was important, when going on a trip, take vacation time afterward so you can recover.

Ben Massoglia says he is very honored to have earned Bruce's respect. Bruce considered children the larval form of something that might be worth keeping, and Ben and his sister are proud to have been regarded as more than a waste of oxygen.

Hare Hobbs: He had a big laugh, but sometimes when he was talking with someone, a mischievous grin would creep over his face. You knew something was coming up.

Jerry Pournelle recalls that Bruce was fairly proud of having won the Silver Beaver Award in the Boy Scouts, which is a difficult thing to get. Secondly, Heinlein novel – at the time he wrote it, he'd just been defeated for the Democratic party nomination for the Assembly, having run on the ham and eggs Upton Sinclair ticket. His oddyssy from socialism to Starship Troopers is quite a trek. There is a piece of paper in which Heinlein and Hubbard were to share the revenues from the book. Never notarized, but it's still out there. They thought the book had been burned.

Bruce Pelz was given 3 cheers, and ka-ching, many times over.

Committee to Gouge: did so.

Old Business: None!

New business: None!

Time Bound Announcement:

Larry Niven announced that Marilyn went in for knee replacement. She's back, and now has feeling in her leg, to her relief. The new knee seems to be working. Note: Send a card. Did so, but was unable to find one that was fuzzy and pink.

Doug Crepeau announced a ten-day countdown on Universal Comics Website for his comic strip.

Francis Hamit announced his blog, the Fight for Copyright. Anyone who can click in and link to it, please help build up the count. There should be lots of interesting copyright info Or do a name search on Francis Hamit.

CLJII: Last night, magic number for year was given. Main catalog titles have been updated, and number of films he's definitely seen is 5125. That's between 95 and 97% of what he's seen.

Pres: Tomorrow Night, GSC at Hallenbeck General Store, starting at 10:00

Committee Reports

CLJII: We did finish Jungle Jim this week. Next week, start "Mysterious Doctor Satan". Also, last Sunday this month is regular FWEMS, theme is "To the Moon, Alice", about man's history of flight. Feb's theme will now be "I Love a Mystery". And, speaking of magic number, we're trying something new. Monthly Movie Count Contest. Pick a number you think I'll have seen by the end of the month, and give Liz a quarter. At the end of the month, he'll announce the number, and the winner gets half the pot.

Time-Bound Announcements

The President announced the Board Meeting this Sunday, followed by Second Sunday festivities.


Rick Foss reviewed Quicksilver by Neil Stephenson, calling it a slog. This is the first part of a trilogy, or maybe the first three tenths of a dekalogy. Problem #1: Stephenson researched the book exhaustively, and wants to share it all with the reader. It's a delightful read, the dialog is sparkling, and at the end of the book, you'll know all kinds of stuff you'll never ever ever ever need to know.

Hare Hobbs read For Us the Living, the Heinlein novel. Spider Robertson mentioned in the foreword that Heinlein didn't consider it a novel. It was a framework for him to communicate his philosophy. For those of us who know it, it's boring. It's his ramblings about how he felt put around a small plotline.

Doug Crepeau reviewed The Underground History of American Education by John Taylor Gatto, a former Teacher of the Year. This confirms the suspicions you may have had that school was built to dumb people down. May be one of the most important books you read this year. Lots of reviews on the web.

Karen Anderson had a counter-opinion. Heinlein's novel is a very inept novel if you think of it as a novel, but pretty good if you think of it as a utopia. It's more interesting than Bellamy, on which Karen cut her teeth. You can see the ideas Heinlein was working on before he started selling SF.

Jerry Pournelle notes that at the time Heinlein wrote it, he'd just been defeated for the Democratic party nomination for the Assembly, having run on the ham and eggs Upton Sinclair ticket. His odyssey from socialism to Starship Troopers is quite a trek. There is a piece of paper in which Heinlein and Hubbard agreed to share the revenues from the book. It was never notarized, but it's still out there. They thought all copies of the book had been burned. And had Virginia been consulted, this copy would have, as well.

Richard Costas reviewed Mars. He went to Pasadena Mars Fest, and was in there biting nails with everyone else while the lander was deciding to transmit. They finally found a hole in the Mars Perimeter Defense System. It was a wonderful landing, and everyone was happy with what they saw.

George Van Wagner did not get to Pasadena, but he and Vanessa were able to watch on Nasa TV.

Francis: The imaging you're seeing is part of a long path of development going back to the late 50s, entirely financed by the DoD.

CLJII: There is no truth to rumor that we're going to mars because Bush was sent a copy of "The Purple Monster Strikes".

Fannish Committee Reports

Bill Ellern wanted to know if the StarGate TV series was worth watching. Many said it is, and if anyone hated it, he didn't hate it enough to speak up about it.

Rumor has it, Bush is announcing we're going back to the Moon to stay.

Hare: Steve Barnes has been trying to encourage other black writers to write SF. They're going to have a Black to the Future conference. It's even got funding.


Frank Waller: In Auto Week, 12/29 issue, They're making the live-action version of the Thunderbirds.

Doug had an old report. – National Union of Idiots has organized.

Another person who was in Pasadena noted that many SF notables were there, including Bradbury, Brin, Bear, etc.

Bill Ellern handed out a bunch of notices to people who helped make Loscon the event it was are invited to a party. Don't worry about bringing wives or girlfriends unless you have both. You may also bring strays. 1/31, food and drink will be provided. If you must bring something, bring finger food or drink that you can share with those in attendance. Come one, come all.

Waller: does have the magazine, and will donate it to the library.

Larry Niven showed off a book cover and said, "June".

CLJII: as of this week, magic number is 8. Speaking of fund-raising stuff, we have an invite from Audiences Unlimited Incorporated, groups of 5 or more willing to attend tapings will get the club donations. See CLJII for info, and we'll try to coordinate it.

Hare went out intending to get season 4 for Babylon 5. Have they all sold out?

A Douglas County, CO man was arrested after a week of attempted robberies. He robbed a store he had given his birth data, name and address, and left his cell phone.

Mark Poliner: A woman in Ohio claimed to have lost winning lottery ticket. She lied. It came out she had been arrested for various petty scams.

Dan announced that the Current US News and World Reports has an article on nanotech.

The meeting adjourned at 21:12:24.

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