LASFS Minutes ("Menace")
Meeting # 4091, 1/7/2016 PDF Print E-mail

Gavin Claypool presiding

Nick Smith, Scribe

Patron Saints: Dan Alderson and Joe Zeff

President Gavin Claypool called the meeting to order at:

Special Orders of Business:

Actor Pat Harrington, Jr. While best known for his role as the building super on the show One Day at a Time, he actually had a long career in fannish television. He was a voice actor for many animated shows, including Scooby Doo, Captain Caveman and Journey to the Center of the Earth. He acted in the David McCallum version of The Invisible Man, and in the Ray Bradbury Theater. He was also part of the only known McHale’s Navy/Man from U.N.C.L.E. crossover, since he played the same character on both shows.

Also, we lost animation director Robert Balser, whose most notable genre work was the Beatles film Yellow Submarine, as well as one of the segments of the Heavy Metal movie.

Minutes of the last meeting

Named: 2015 should be hauled away as garbage, by Matthew Tepper

Patron saints

Dan Alderson

Scratch—Dan Alderson has been immortalized in three Niven/Pournelle books, and one of our members had a lot to do with helping in his later  days.

CLJII—Star Trek the Motion Picture should have been called the Revenge of Dan Alderson. Dan had written maneuvering software for Voyager that permitted it to get through the asteroid belt. In addition to his work at JPLm he was a collector of things like old Fawcett comics. The collection eventually went to Harlan Ellison. Also a collector of sf books and magazines. Later in life, he found out that he had many of the foods he enjoyed were cumulatively bad, but then lived longer than expected on a diet that was bad for him. His health declined as a result of his diabetes, and he remained active as long as he could be. Charlie shared a house with him until it burned down.

Barbara—knew him slightly when Dan was in high school. Her mother was a teacher at Verdugo High. They came to LASFS in 1957, hoping to meet Ray Bradbury.  They didn't, but instead met Fritz Leiber. Dan won a statewide student chemistry award his senior year in high school.

Joe—Demonstrating Dan's common sense, when he was still mobile, he would start his walks by going uphill, so that he would be going downhill when he was tired. Joe points out that Dan wrote out the rules for LASFS elections in the way a computer program is written. Dan is also a character in Exiles to Glory by Jerry Pournelle

Gavin—Dan is also in one of the David McDaniel UNCLE books. Gavin helped Dan to collate APA-L at a Westercon. A year later, Gavin showed up at the clubhouse, and Dan handed him a copy of the zine.

CLJII—It's a well-known belief that comic book characters never die. Dan Alderson, along with Bruce Pelz and a  few others, were clearly cartoon characters, so they're just waiting for a new editor to bring them back.

Three cheers and a weep-wail

Joe Zeff

David—Joe was an excellent scribe, and apparently one of two people who understand the Alderson voting method.

Francis—Joe is a Vietnam veteran, an experience that was quite science fictional.

Christian—Remembers Joe's collected “stupid computer user” stories.

Marcia—Known Joe all of his life. He became involved with LASFS, and he kept talking about it. Marcia dropped in to find out about it. Everything that Marcia has done with the club are because of Joe.

Barbara—Joe is very inspiring, in the way he deals with health issues.

Christian—When Dan Alderson's health was failing, Joe did his best to keep him comfortable at the club.

Gavin—on behalf of Mary Ann Canfield—Joe Zeff used to buy groceries at the store where she worked, and told her about LASFS.

Three cheers and a stupid user report

Guests: Douglas Fisher was here, but had to leave. Learned about LASFS through Google. Interested in SF and fans.

Time-Bound Announcements:

Sci-Fest, the annual festival of science fiction plays, is having a fundraiser event on Monday, January 11th at the Colony Theater in Burbank. Tickets are available at . The event includes a 1944 radio play version of Frankenstein, performed by Brent Spiner, Gates McFadden, Tim Russ and Linda Park, from various Star Trek series, and other actors. Sci-Fest is also presenting an award to Roger Corman, and there will be a silent auction of donated memorabilia.

Nick will be organizing a club outing to the Star Trek musical at Caltech, which will be the last weekend of February and the first weekend of March.

Francis has copies of his new book.

Also, the Marlowe movie is going well. Officially a Gary Kurtz production. Distribution deal guarantees at least a minimal U.S. release, and how many theaters depends on casting and how the production goes.

Gerry—February 27 will be the celebration of George Clayton Johnson at the Egyptian Theater

CLJII received proof for new book Aerial Ace, and is trying to find out the lag time before publication.

Treasurer’s Report: no report

Committee to Gouge held a small auction

Upcoming Programs:

Jan. 7—Discussion of the club's future

Jan. 14—Tim Griffin pre-meeting program at 7 pm

Jan. 21—Big fat auction [hey, it's only big-boned]

Jan. 28-- Two episodes of Science Fiction Theater

More to come

Library report—Saturn Run by John Sandford and Ctein has been added to the library, thanks to a generous donation from Christian McGuire

Report from the board—Board meeting at 11 am, which will examine LosCon bids.

A Moment of Science, with David Okamura

Thanks to Kristin for reading his report on December 24th. In Japan on that date, normally visitors are more like Godzilla, but in fact there was a giant squid wandering into shallow waters. A diver jumped in to get pictures, and he got close enough to get inked. It was “only” 12-feet long, so it was a young one.

Out with the old and ring in the new--elements 113, 117 and 118 have been added to the periodic table. Official names to be announced later this year.

Have you driven a Ford lately? There may be a Ford driving you around soon. A collaboration between Ford and Google is apparently in the works. GM is working with Lyft to see if they can do self-driving taxis.

Bad news—NASA's Insight craft planned to launch to Mars has to be scrapped for now, due to serious flaws.

Good news—European space agency's exo-Mars craft will orbit the planet to measure atmospheric methane.

More news for the bulletin board.

Matthew comments that Asimov's story “Sally” is about a retirement farm for self-driving cars. In the story, the oldest car there was a 2015 model named Matthew.

Old Business: Proclamation of 2016 as “Y4E” because this year is the 100th anniversary of his birth. The new president hopes to do more to remember Forry. Bill has unearthed a cap produced by Forry in 1996, on his 80th birthday, commemorating his planned 100th anniversary. Donated to the club display cabinet. Black cap has Vampirella, white cap has the robot from Metropolis.

Old Business: none

New Business: none


Barbara—got a free ticket offer for The Martian, but it turned out to be an offer to keep coming back for standby tickets.

Nick—watched the first half of the premiere of Chronicles of Shannara. Good production values, but didn't care for the characters and the modern slanginess. MTV may be doing SF better than the SyFy network.

Milt—Expanse on SyFy has been pretty good.

CLJII—Murdock Investigations on Cozi TV 4.2 is pretty good.

Francis—Diary of a Callgirl makes sex boring, but is Billy Piper right after Dr. Who.

Milt— He read Saturn Run, good enough book, but not one he would nominate for a Hugo. Space race triggered by an apparent alien visit to our outer planets.


CLJ announced that a combined digital/super 8 camera is being introduced.

Matthew is so hopeful that film will make a comeback that their executives have business cards printed on film stock.

Adjourn to discussion at: 9:28 pm
Meeting # 4090, 12/31/2015 PDF Print E-mail

Matthew Tepper presiding

Nick Smith, Scribe

Patron Saint: Forry Ackerman

President Matthew Tepper reminded us that Auld meeting times should not be forgot at: 8:00 pm

Special Orders of Business:

While his life was celebrated in depth last meeting, the actual passing of

George Clayton Johnson was on Friday, December 25th. He might have appreciated that, as it makes a better story. He was co-creator of Logan’s Run and the writer or creator of SEVEN Twilight Zone episodes. He co-wrote the original treatment for the film Ocean’s 11, and wrote scripts or stories for Star Trek, Honey West, Wanted Dead or Alive, Alfred Hitchcock Presents, Route 66, and Kung Fu. He even acted in an episode of Sea Hunt, apparently just because.

Bass player Lemmy Kilmister, was best known as founder of the metal band Motorhead, with 40 albums, but fans may know his music from when he was part of the band Hawkwind. There he worked on rock music based on the Eternal Champion novels of Michael Moorcock and Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny. He was sort of the world’s loudest filker.

Meadowlark Lemon, mainly known as a member of the Harlem Globetrotters, but also acted on Gilligan's Island, and did a lot of voice work for animation.

Minutes of the last meeting

$5 from Regina to name the minutes “Kick the Can.”



Saint Stuff:

Nick—Back in the early 1980s, Forry was still acting as a literary agent. Many of the writers had given him manuscripts to sell as much as 30 years earlier, and some were never sold, or sold to magazines or anthologies which never came out. In those cases, authors told him to keep the manuscripts and try again. When Fantasy Book was getting started, Nick met with Forry to see if any of these stories could be used. That is how the first issue of the magazine ended up with a long-lost L. Ron Hubbard short story, and the second issue had a story co-written by Forry himself and Donald Wollheim. Forry also found a story in his files by Albert Hernhuter, who turned out to be the uncle of Nick’s then girlfriend, and who had given up writing for a career in meteorology. He was very surprised to get the check, almost 30 years after he wrote the story.

Eric—Didn't expect to ever meet him, but eventually got to work with him on the Famous Monsters magazine. Always a fan at heart. The calls and letters he got from fans meant a lot to him. They did a duet of Al Jolson songs at a LosCon.

Scratch—had the pleasure of going through the Ackermansion collection for a day, and was finally scuttled out the door because it had gotten dark, having seen only a fraction.

Regina—had fond memories of what a gracious host Forry was, on a visit.

Joe—One of the Man from UNCLE books by McDaniel involves a present day vampire, and Forry is included as a character.

Mike Thorsen—present at the LaLaCon where Forry was a guest, speaking on the history of LASFS. Asked what the most special thing about LASFS was, and he pointed to the display cases. Forry said that everything in the cases and on the walls had a story, and that someone knew that story.

Eric—One of his favorite memories was Forry at conventions. One year Jack Kirby and Kirk Alyn were judges along with Forryat the masquerade, and there were two different Vampirellas. One was Brinke Stevens, and the other an exotic dancer named Destiny, who were actively tormenting the judges.

Tom Safer—at one time Tom was friends with Dr. Donald Reed, and Dr. Reed invited Tom to come along to a party at Forry's. Tom got to see the collection at that party.

Eylat—Met Forry in a unique way. She learned about LASFS from an announcement in a magazine, and came to find out about fandom. While researching fandom for a speech for a college class, she wrote a letter to Forry, and he wrote back by sending her information and fanzines, and inviting her to one of his open house parties. Ray Bradbury was sitting next to her, and she didn't know who that was. This led to an argument between Ray and Forry about who deserved to be called “Mr. Sci-Fi.” Nicknamed her “Mystery Girl.”

Barbara—Forry didn't like to drive, and Barbara drove him around many years ago, called him Uncle Forry because of the difference in their ages. He offered to help Jim Harmon get work as a writer, very low-budget stuff. Jim and Forry had a falling out when Jim got an offer to do a competing magazine. The last time she saw Forry was at the Paperback Show, and he was fading in and out, but he had moments of clarity there.

Matthew—had a teacher named Florence Russell, whose husband was the FBI agent who investigated LASFS, brought SF people to class to talk about SF. That was when Matthew was 10 or 11, and Forry was one of the people she brought to talk to students. His silliest memory of Forry was seeing Forry play Chopin at a nudist resort.

Barbara—she was Forry's date at  a similar event.

Joe—has seen a fan film Forry made where he inadvertently released a genie. The dancing girl in the film was Bjo.

June—John deChancie came up to Len and said “I loved your story,” and Len said “What story?” It was in an anthology, and Forry helped them collect the check.

Gavin—when he attended his first SF convention in 1972, it was the Fantasy Film Fans International convention, and Forry was the featured guest. Gavin went up to ask a question, which was “Mr. Ackerman, how did you end up in a Man from UNCLE novel?”

Gerry—met Forry a number of times, and Forry was responsible for one of the best pieces of film that Gerry had ever seen, at a memorial at the Egyptian Theater. Packed event with a turn-away crowd. People went up on stage to talk about Forry, but then a big image of Forry came on the screen, speaking from his deathbed to the fans. It was filmed for that purpose, and may have been his best acting job.

Frank Waller—met Forry at a convention, but Frank first went up to the wrong author and asked him if he was Forry.

Tom Camus—wanted to make sure that someone mentioned that Forry was an integral part of the club in the 30s and 40s, and that many people who were there had said there might have been no LASFS without him.

Eric—Forry introduced him to Christoper Lee and Fritz Lang at a party. Because they were debating over a point, Forry pointed them to Eric to answer a question.

Bill Ellern—met Forry a very long time ago, before the Ackermansion. Even then, his house was filled with books. The office was piles of paper around a swivel chair. Later at the Ackermansion he remembers getting A. E. Van Vogt to explain his ventures into psychology. Van Vogt had attempted to use his superego to create stories, by getting an alarm clock to ring every 30-60 minutes, so that he never deeply slept, and cranked out stories both good and bad by that method. Forry got people to open up in public, including birthday parties at the Biltmore. Bill said that people were trying to get him on audio recordings, telling stories [Tom Camus says that some were done]. Blll asked him about Doc Smith, and Forry showed him unpublished manuscripts. Forry shamelessly raided files of the film companies, which is where he got the material for Famous Monsters and the Ackermansion. He would go on vacation in Europe and come back with a hundred boxes of books. His then-secretary finally informed him that he had no place to put any more stuff.

June—Forry's parties would last for two days, because he couldn't fit all the guests into his house at one time.

Barbara—at his birthday parties, he would give the guests presents.

CLJII—it was his pleasure to be a friend of Forry's for many years. Charlie found LASFS because he called Forry, and Bill Warren answered the phone, and said that Forry was away, but would be at LASFS later. That was what led Charlie to encounter LASFS. Forry took out a lifetime subscription to Charlie's writing, but he took people to work and help out Forry in the later years, trying to catalog his collection of stills. Only made it up to the letter R. Visited Forry in the hospital. He rallied enough to get to the House of Pies and back. Charlie had made him Fan GOH for the 1984 LosCon.

CLJII—Forry said that his last words would be “Sci Fi”

Three Cheers and not a dry martini

Time-Bound Announcements:

Friday the 1st, Marty is opening the clubhouse for socializing and gaming. Clubhouse opens at 12, food starts at 2.

Sunday the 3rd from 4 pm to 10 pm, monster movies

LASFS board meeting of January 10th will consider LosCon bids.

TSPC will be Jan. 16th at 10 am, and it will be the first Night Stalker film

Treasurer’s Report: Elayne's not here

Incoming president's report: 2016 will be known as the year of Y4E

Committee reports:

CLJII—leftover goodies from Dec. 25 party for tonight's party.

Upcoming programs:

Jan. 7—Open discussion “Quo Vadis LASFS”. Thoughts about the club and its future.

Jan. 14—Tim Griffin pre-meeting

Jan. 21—Big Auction

Jan. 28—Tentative My Favorite Book programs

Episodes of Science Fiction Theater, with Truman Bradley

A Moment of Science, with David Okamura, will resume in the new year because he couldn’t manage to top last week’s edition.

Old Business

New Business


Frank—saw Star Wars. Thoroughly enjoyable for the Hardware Wars people.

Matthew says that one of the characters was based on a teacher from his high school, according to J. J. Abrams.

Time-Bound Announcement:

CLJ II—two new books going into the LASFS library. 18 e-books, 12 physical books.

Fannish committee reports

Mike Thorsen—on Facebook there is a thing about crowdfunding an Axanar Star Trek fan film. Paramount has apparently gotten upset, because it's a GOOD fan film.


Tom Safer heard the dumbest criminal story on the news. Police pulled over a weaving driver, who saw a cop arriving, and the driver tried to smoke up all the evidence.

Nick--A fan in Montana last week gave new meaning to the term “spoiler alert.” He was so upset that a Facebook correspondent had given away one of the plot points for the new Star Wars movie that he posted a threatening picture of himself holding a gun, described as having a hair trigger. The young student who posted the spoiler was frightened, and reported it to authorities, who then locked down his entire school and arrested the fan. The moral appears to be, the next time you threaten someone over a spoiler, use a lightsaber, an elegant weapon for a more civilized time.

Drew, old returning young member, is working on a film project, and wants to be here at the club more.

Tom Safer—Today is the 60th anniversary of One Froggy Evening by Chuck Jones

Hare—on the Star Trek fan film lawsuit. In the past the rulings have been in favor of the fans.

Adjourn to program at: 9:30 pm
Meeting # 4089, 12/24/2015 PDF Print E-mail

Matthew Tepper, President

Kristen Gorlitz, Scribe

Patron Saints Elayne Pelz, Robbie Bourget, Marty Cantor

Matthew Tepper called the meeting to order at precisely 8:00 pm

Special Orders of Business:

Celebrating the life of George Clayton Johnson -

Marty Cantor: Was once on same panel as George. George didn't show up for 1st half, and they were on topic until he showed up. George talked about things that interested George, and it was a wonderful panel to be on.

Matthew Tepper: He was indeed a stoner- the most brilliant and cogent stoner Matthew has ever known. Some have flashes of brilliance, but George was a steady beam of brilliance. Few got in conversation with George, he got involved with what you were, and the love he generated pulled you in. Never came away unhappy or dissatisfied from a conversation with George.

Tom Locke: MSN reported him dead, one time at a con, crazy George (as he was known to friends), encountered a couple of runners who came into the room where George was sitting, shouted “save us, save us, the sandman is after us”, and sure enough, sandman try to come through the door. George props his feet on the door. “Why did you block our way. Why did you stop us?” the sandman cried. I'm George Clayton Johnson, and they stopped in their tracks - here was the creator of the universe they were playing in

Joe Zeff: At a Loscon at Burbank Hilton in the smoking lounge, he spent a pleasant time talking with George and he was a delight to talk with. He not only wrote but basically created the story for the original Ocean's Eleven. Rat pack wanted to make a heist movie set in Las Vegas and they handed that to George and the entire story came out of his imagination

Tom Locke: Long before he knew George, he saw Ocean’s Eleven

Matthew: Lived outside of LA and flew in to visit at Thanksgiving and go to Loscon, KTLA ran Twilight Zone marathon and they always played “Nothing in the Dark”, very touching, moving story that is about dying and moving on. It was such a moving story that he would then head off to Loscon and he would run into George and pump his hand, thanking him for that episode. Thanked him over a dozen times for that. Few years ago, when Deborah and he became a couple, Matthew wanted to know where he stood with her parents, mother liked him right away, bonded with her father over the Twilight Zone. Thanked George because he and the other writers helped him bond with his future father in law, which is very important to Matthew. He never got tired of hearing how people loved his work.

Michelle Pincus: met him at paperback show, bookseller introduced her to George and they talked for about ½ hour. Next year she came back and George said “hi” to her. Great conversations and he was a dear friend

Hare Hobbes: First saw him at paperback show, went out and caught a familiar smell – pot – figured out who it was, he was holding court outside. Found out who George was later that day

Minutes of the last meeting were read and corrected

Marsha Minsky bid $1 to name the minutes “and you can't spend it”

Patron saints Elayne Pelz, Robbie Bourget, Marty Cantor


Scratch: Elayne has had a “small” impact on the club She doesn't have the historical forceful personality that Robbie had when manning the front desk, but she has a more incomptive nature Knows what is going on and will make sure the right person does it

Marty: Elayne is one of the better treasurer’s they have had. Corflew 2017 she is hotel Liaison and treasurer, she is very competent

Marsha: first came into club, Robbie was treasurer, Elayne was treasurer for the convention and had to work with Elayne and she was so afraid of Elayne. For Loscon 42, tables turned, was more confident, would tell Elayne what they are spending and you could see the wheel spinning. Lots of respect for her. Considers her a very valued friend

Tom: Bruce was very good at keeping the cash coming in. Wondered who would take his place, his wife has done an excellent job continuing that

Matthew: friendship goes far back, 45 years ago same German class, she had just joined LASFS, privileged and honored, quietest hard working people that you know. Can get people to work for her with just a few words. She has never frightened him, but always been impressed by the way she gets cooperation

Milt: moving into first clubhouse – did not have enough paint to finish, poured all remaining paint together and Yankovsky? purple

Three Cheers and “a cup of tea”


Scratch: Has a forceful personality when it comes to money, could gently get $ from people. Well mannered unless you deserved otherwise. Had the ability to (beat up a mugger). Periodically had migraines, Scratch sat by her, speaking French to him (er native language) was carrying on a conversation he did not understand. Hopes he was a small help to her. Good friend. Well worth

Karl: Run Gallifrey 1 for over ¼ century. Manages to hide rather well, she is terrified of speaking in front of crowds, but has to do so every year for Gallifrey. Has a way of dealing with would be felons. Email from Elat, scam, give him address and will pass it on to Robbie. If there were a club member in distress in London area, Robbie would have shown up

Marsha: Loscon 42, had the good fortune as having Robbie as co-chair. Robbie helped make it one of the most enjoyable Loscons. Took Loscon 42 up to Washington, ops and worked with Robbie and John and learned a lot more about ops. Well organized group of people

Joe: Robbie and conventions – when she is around during truck loading, she is an outstanding load mistress. Good at getting things loaded where they belong

Matthew: tidbit – she collects things and obsessively views things. Pink Floyd pulse, collect every variant edition of that from all countries and it would be blinking. Also, along with interest in Dr. Who, when she saw Adam's Family feature film, saw it again and again and again. Friends could say when they wanted to go, and she would join them. Had gone to theater directly from work then she went with matthew – wearing blouse and skirt. First time he saw her in “girl clothes”

Scratch : also loved the movie Sense and Sensibilities, Scratch saw it 4 times with her

Marsha: Wears kilts and skirt at Gally

Marty: did give her driving lessons, met Robbie at 1982 worldcon in Chicago. Mutual love at first sight. In school, was a hockey player, goalie. Talk about crook, San Fran 1993 worldcon, mugger, dragged him to hotel so she could call cops, hotel people threw him out. She wasn't hurt, he was. Really was a gentle person. They never had problems. One of better treasurer's we've ever had. Got divorced about 10 years after marriage. Collect monopoly sets, and Robbie brings him different kinds – chocolate version. Get along very fine. Miss her being around. Born in Canada, grandma told her nice little girls don't speak French, so she learned English. Wonderful person, glad he married her, too bad it didn't work out. Wonderful influence here in LA and in fandom. Now lives in England.

Three cheers “and I have nothing more to say, she's a wonderful person”


Scratch: He calls himself a curmudgeon, he's a nice guy.

Michelle: he's a nice guy no matter what he says

Kay: Managed to give Marty a holiday present. Santa hat with Bah humbug written across the top. Fughead of the year award, would actively campaign for the award. Campaigned for winner

Matthew: known marty for a few decades, not nearly as long as he would like, fanzine fan, not media on your life fan, reader, pleased to have Marty as a friend. Clockwork people, who likes to do things on time. During his single term as president, got the meetings to start at 8:00 pm. So many stories. Snow story – utter disgust at snow, bunch of ppl made trip to mountain, loaded flatbed truck full of snow and dumped it on Marty's doorstep

Mike Thorsen: fortune of being board member with Marty, having him there to make sense of Mike. When proposing things to benefit the club, but can't seem to find right words, Marty is there to help make sense of things

Frank: Remembers back in the day when both Marty and Frank had hair (Marty still does!)

Michelle: People don't understand how hard Marty works for the club, in charge of publications, always been there for publications and helping Michelle. Marty is doing something for Loscon 43 (Marty says no he's not)

Matthew : Deborah is very grateful to Marty because he likes to get here early on Fridays and open the clubhouse, thus relieving her of her responsibilities

Three Cheers and “bah humbug”

Guests: none

Time-Bound Announcements:

Aetna warning

Soda auction - $3 to Matthew for Cherry Coke

Treasurer’s Report: No treasurer's report submitted

A Moment of Science, with David Okamura

A report in Christmas rhyme

Tom: on space station they are now growing lettuce and flowers (zinas), discussing crops such as tomatoes (not yet potatoes)

Committee Reports:

Marty: committee to give people a relaxing good time. Jan 1 is a Friday. You can all come down and enjoy, board games

Marsha: Loscon 42, Jan 24th at 11:30 am there will be wrap up meeting and immediately following will be first meeting for Loscon 43

Upcoming Programs:

December 25: Winter holiday party, with winter movies

December 31: Best SF film of 1940: Dr. Cyclops, plus stuff about Forry

January 1: Special all-day open house and gaming session with refreshments, Noon-10 pm-ish

January 14: Tim Griffin program

Forthcoming programs are in the works for guest authors to talk about favorite books

Old Business: none

New Business: none


Karl: Childhood's End, marathon view, reasonably good adaptation of book, slight difference in ending. Slight quibbled but still enjoyable

Michelle: Star Wars Premiere afterparty. Long tent on Hollywood Blvd. 2 photo ops with BB-8 and Chewy, video games, like a cantina, open bars, plenty of food. Deserts were photograph worthy. Coffee was really good, with milk and cream. R2D2 strolling up and down. Music and light saber show

Milt: Miniseries – BBC miniseries from Neil Gaiman's Neverwhere, made in 1996. Good novel and they did well with the miniseries.


Mike Thorsen: Vending machine has been restored to functionality

Karl: 774 platelets donated this year

Adjourn at 9:07 pm
Meeting # 4088, 12/17/2015 PDF Print E-mail

Matthew Tepper presiding

Nick Smith, Scribe

Patron Saints Steve McGinty and Heide Nichols

President Matthew Tepper called the meeting to order 0at: 8:00 pm

Special Orders of Business:

It was a bad week for British SF authors. We note the passing of two of them.

First, British SF author Peter Malcolm de Brissac Dickinson, OBE. Under the shorter version of his name, Peter Dickinson, he wrote almost fifty books in the fields of SF, fantasy and mystery, many for children and teens. The BBC adapted several of them for television. Rankin/Bass did a made-for-tv film called A Flight of Dragons which was a weird mashup of one of his stories and a completely different one by Gordon Dickson. After the death of his first wife, he married another award-winning author, Robin McKinley, and they did a series of fantasy anthologies together. He was a reviewer, poet and editor for Punch magazine for seventeen years, and didn’t sell his first novel until he was 40. He quickly sold three more, quit his job at Punch, and continued writing for the next 45 years, publishing his final two books in 2012.

Also, British author David Rain, who wrote eight science fiction and fantasy novels under the pen name Tom Arden, including one Dr. Who novel. He was just in the process of re-issuing most of the books under his real name, under which his mainstream fiction had been published.

Fan writer and editor Felice Rolf Maxam died recently. She was a LASFS member. Last here around 2011, at the old clubhouse. Died at age 81.

Minutes of the last meeting were read and corrected

Naming rights were sold to Scratch for $3.25, and they became “...and throw the rascals in!”

Patron saints Steve McGinty and Heide Nichols


[from the hagiography] Avid reader and general fan, he had a propensity for computer-related gags. Was an Official Assistant Librarian.

Matthew: Steve would set up an ad-hoc computer network at the old clubhouse. He has been to this clubhouse only rarely.

Three cheers and an overpriced iDevice


Nick—Longtime filker and gamer who has done a lot for LosCon gaming, by keeping good relationship with game publishers.

Matthew—Distance and health issues have interfered with some of her fannish activity in recent years.

Guests: none

Time-Bound Announcements:.

TSPC on Saturday the 19th will be running It's A Wonderful Life. Starts at 10 am.

Marty: New Year's Day open house and gaming from 12 noon to whenever.

Treasurer’s Report: $23,088.28 and you can finish the phrase yourself

Upcoming Programs:

December 17: Big Auction

December 24: Ceremonial hanging of stockings, if we can find the chimney

December 25: Winter holiday party, with winter movies

December 31: Best SF film of 1940: Dr. Cyclops, plus stuff about Forry

January 1: Special all-day open house and gaming session with refreshments, Noon-10 pm-ish

January 14: Tim Griffin program

Forthcoming programs are in the works for guest authors to talk about favorite books

A Moment of Science, with David Okamura

As science and technology forge ahead, laws have to run behind, catching up. [Scribal note: do laws run with their tongues hanging out?] The state of California still insists on having a steering wheel and licensed driver in an otherwise driverless car.

The FAA has announced a drone registration program. Half-pound to 55-pound drones will have to be registered.

Everyone is talking about how El Nino will be a real gullywasher, but this will not totally alleviate the drought. Carlsbad will finally open a de-salinization plant, and Santa Barbara will bring their plant out of mothballs.

Nick mentioned that the Los Angeles Metropolitan Water District plans to cut off water shipments to other water districts for 9 days in the spring, so this may be a needed safeguard.

Old Business: none

New Business: none


Milt read Ancillary Mercy, by Ann Leckle, third volume in a series. The first volume won a Hugo a few years ago. Milt felt that the second and third books felt like one book split in two, and didn't add much to the first book. Lots of tea-drinking, unlikely military structure, gender-neutral terms don't help.

Christian recommended the TV show The Expanse, based on the first episode.

Milt has read the first 5 books in that series, and likes it, and thought the TV adaptation was good up to episode 2, at least.


Ed Hooper announced that there was a wedding between two Star Wars fans at the Chinese Theater, officiated by Shawn Crosby.

Adjourn to auction at:  8:48 pm

Meeting # 4087, 12/10/2015 PDF Print E-mail
Deborah Levin presiding

Nick Smith, Scribe

Patron Saint Fred Patten

Vice president President Deborah Levin called the meeting at:

Special Orders of Business:

The scribe had to double­check this time to make sure that it wasn’t him, but

in fact, we’ve lost British actor Nicholas Smith at the age of 81. With a

character acting career spanning five decades and roles on Doctor Who,

the Avengers, Ace of Wands and other fannish series and films, and even

a role in a Wallace and Gromit movie, what he’s most remembered for by

the general TV­watching public is the twenty years he spent playing Mr.

Rumbold in the British comedy series Are You Being Served?

In addition, Akiyuki Nosaka died yesterday at the age of 85. A writer, singer,

songwriter and member of the Japanese House of Councilors, he is best

known to American fans as having written the story “Grave of the Fireflies,”

which Studio Ghibli turned into what is considered the saddest anime of all


Harry Bowman was one of the 14 victims in San Bernardino, apparently also

a fan.

Minutes of the last meeting

Named: $1.75 from Scratch to name them “It's Marcia' Fault.”

Patron saint Fred Patten

Ed—Fred was a co­founder of CFO, the first American anime club.

George—many fond memories related to Fred, including conversations.

Most memorable was introducing George to “Bring me the Head of Charlie


Marty—Fred was a co­founder of the Down Under Fan Fund. Marty and

Robbie won that, and had a great time. Fred was also a prolific apa

contributor. He contributed to over 2000 consecutive issues of APA­L. His

stroke only slowed him down, although he finally quit.

Milt—Oddest fact known about him was Fred knew how to tap dance. He

was also a science fiction reviewer for Library Journal. He was a member of

“The Cult,” a traditionally obnoxious group of fan writers.

CLJII—when Charlie joined LASFS, Fred was the source of non­American

comics, even before he sold them manga. He also sold corresponding toys.

Kay—She manages Fred's website these days. Fred gave her photos to

post, and one of them was of Fred in costume—as the Jay Garrick Flash.

Kay is slowly typing up some of his old zines and posting them.

Barbara—remembers seeing him standing up, leaning against a bookcase,

sound asleep.

Scott—picked Fred as his fan GoH for LosCon. His stroke happened

between selection and the con, so the con made arrangements for his

transportation so he could still participate.

Marty—Infamous for reading at a party, but still paying attention to

everything around him.

Joe—Fred's APA­L zines had complex funny titles, like one that translated

into English as Radioactive Radishes.

Ed—Fred brought a guest to a con in Anaheim, the creator of Mobile Suit

Gundam, which is how Anaheim Electronics got written into the Gundam


Jerry—Fred was publisher of a review magazine which gave Mote a bad

review. The editor told him he couldn't be fired. That seemed unusual.

Three cheers and a giant robot.

Guests: none

Time­Bound Announcements:

Committee Reports:

Holiday party­­ 2 pm to 10 or 11, and the lantern o' jack is getting full, which

is a good thing. Hot food, cool movies

Treasurer’s Report:

Upcoming Programs:

December 10: Procedural officer elections for January through June

December 11: Gift exchange

December 17: Big Fat Auction

December 24: No program per se, but you can find things to do

December 25: Winter holiday party

December 31: A showing of Dr. Cyclops, a film from 1940

Rules for the gift exchange are available, in print. Bring a gift and snacks to

share. Doors open at approximately 7, exchange starts at 8 pm.

A Moment of Science, with David Okamura

Things are looking up in space, even though there is no up or down there.

The Japanese satellite is now in an elliptical orbit around Venus, and should

start relaying data.

In terms of companies launching stuff into space: Virgin Galactic had Space

Ship 2, which crashed, but have announced a plan to launch satellites off of

a 747, a Virgin Atlantic plane. If that sounds familiar, this idea has been used

before with a B­52, by Orbital.

Orbital still has a contract, but their hardware is suspect, being old Russian

rocket engines, so they've subcontracted. United Launch Alliance is helping

Orbital send a payload to the International Space Station. ULA was the

primary launcher for the U.S. government for satellites for a while. Space X

will be testing a new Falcon 9, and if it works, they will be going back into

space within days. They are still working on landing, and will next try for a

land­based location, rather than the barge concept.

Meanwhile, the ULA may need to use Blue Horizon to launch, because ULA

had been using Russian engines.

Treasurer's report: $24,149.70

Committee to beg [Gavin] pointed out the book sales

Time Bound Announcements:

Sunday, December 13 is both a Board meeting and 2

CLJII—Tuesday is Deck the Halls day on Amazon, so he wants people to

download his free book that day.

Old Business: Procedural elections

Nominations for president:

Gavin Claypool [24]

Nick Smith [14]

Ed nominatef Rob Powell, who clumsily declines

Frank nominatef Deborah, she declined

Gavin Claypool was elected

Vice President

David nominated Deborah, but only if she gets the club name right

Scott nominated Gizmo, who declined

While NOT using the green radioactive radish­colored ballot,

Deborah was elected by acclamation.


Elayne nominated Jeromy [24]

Deborah nominated Ed Hooper [13]

Eric nominates Michelle, but Elayne pointed out that Michelle is already co-
treasurer, and is thus not eligible

Marcia nominated Scratch, who declined

Greg nominated David, who declined

Jeromy was elected as registrar


Jeromy nominated Karl

Michelle nominated Nick and Karl, who collectively accepted [30]

Karl then withdrew Jeromy's nomination of Karl

George nominated The Emperor, who declined imperially

Ed Hooper nominates Joe Zeff, who accepted [6]

June nominates Jack Harness, who posthumously declined

Joe nominated Matthew, whose wife had been given instructions to decline

Voting used a ballot “Visible from space”

The team of Nick and Karl won

New Business: none


CLJII has been watching the new Fargo series, 2

you count a flying saucer.

Gavin—adaptation of Childhood's End will begin next Monday.


Francis Hamit has a new book out on security, a professional one. Also

Leigh Strother­Virn is still undiagnosed.

Since Gavin will be busy for a while on Thursdays, so buy your DVDs now.

Frank is going in for prostate surgery.

CLJII says we don't want to see his scar.

Marcia says that Jim Hines is still saying nice things about LosCon on social


Milt: Retro Hugos for the year 1940 at the Kansas City Worldcon. Year of

eligibility and length. If This Goes On by Heinlein was too short to qualify, but

the Gray Lensman is eligible in the best novel category.

Francis announced that Gavin has been editing books for him for publication,

and did a superb job.

Adjournment at: 9:31 pm
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