LASFS Minutes ("Menace")
Meeting # 4059, May 28, 2015 PDF Print E-mail

Matthew Tepper presiding

Karl Lembke, Scribe

Patron Saint Ed Baker

(Portions read at the meeting are highlighted like this.)

President Matthew Tepper called meeting #4059 to what passes for order at 8:00.

Special orders of business:

Tanith Lee has passed, two days ago. We had a moment of silence in her memory.

Tom Locke announced that Beverly Kanter has been recovering from her fractures. She is living in San Diego, and has been diagnosed with Parkinson’s, which may account for her falls.She has asked that her mailing address, 4308 Avon Drive #3 La Mesa CA 91941, ℅ her sister, be made available.

Menace from last meeting were read.  Marcia Minsky bid $2 to name them “In the words of Karl Lembke: Sunland, I know where that is.” They were so accepted.

Time Bound Announcements!

Loscon Committee was represented at Baycon and Clockwork Alchemy. We have one membership from Baycon and one from Clockwork Alchemy.  Zack, Spike, Justine Reynolds for sitting the table at Baycon, and Wendy Newton for sitting the table at Clockwork.

Committee Reports

The Treasurer’s report: We have money

You can’t spend it.

June 4, nominations for President of LASFS and a Chuck Jones cartoon show by Tom Safer.

June 11, procedural elections

June 18, big auction

June 25, More Like the Movies, part I.

June 28: Last Sunday of June, G Men vs the Black Dragon and Daredevils of the West, which will be interleaved.

David Okamura monitored science for the club.  When Elon Musk started building rockets and cars, people thought he was certifiable.  His rockets are. They’re now certified for military use, especially for spy satellites.

Over Memorial day weekend, a lot of people went to the beach, and lifeguards had to put in an appearance because of great white shark sightings.  They were only 7 feet long, so they’re only pretty good white sharks. The life guards protect the sharks from the people.

Later this year, we may have people bringing external flight tanks for the shuttle to Los Angeles.

Back in 1921, archaeologists digging a burial mound found an oak tree trunk hollowed out to make a cofffin. Inside was a young woman, the so-called Egtved Girl, age 16 or so, height maybe 5’ something.  Acid from the oak and peat dissolved the bones, but left clothes, teeth, fingernails and other parts. Under modern scientific methods, they were able to tell a lot from strontium levels in her teeth and hair. Based on strontium levels, they were able to tell she was not from Denmark, and had traveled extensively before her death.

She was buried with a bucket of bronze age beer. (But was it the brutish viking beer?) It was made with bog myrtle berries, honey, and other ingredients.

Registrar Ed Hooper announced no new guests. Welcome back!

President Tepper notes tonight’s program is a presentation of artwork by our very own Marc Schirmeister.

We honored tonight’s Patron Saint:

Patron Saint Ed Baker

Milt Stevens recalls he was an Esperantist, was fond of Ayn Rand, and was a dedicated Catholic. He showed up about the same time Fred Patten, so the two were confused with each other for a while.  

He was a member of an APA called The Cult. He translated one of thier fantasy pieces into Esperanto, so they threw him out. For thirteen members, they caused a lot of trouble.

Ed died 4/22/71.

Matthew Tepper recalls Fred Patten put on the TOC for APA-L, Ed Baker died this week, Funeral Saturday.

Sandy Cohen commented that when Ed was active, he was one of the leaders trying to make sure this was a literary organization. A number of people were glad to recommend books, and Sandy appreciated that.

Tom Locke: Ed was very much interested in the teachings of Andrew Columbus at the Free Enterprise Institute, and was quite active with that institute.

From the Hagiography:

Served as treasurer, custodian of part of the library and secretary

supervised a newspaper delivery crew

was once limited to a maximum of three languages or three coinages in his treasurer's reports, which he sometimes delivered in Esperanto and sometime announced in terms of Esperanto coins.

known for his [always clean] double entendres and for having a very good deadpan expression.

Patron Saint Ed Baker was given three cheers and a green star.

No Old Business

No New Business

CLJII announced his new book, his 16th, is out today: The History of Batman. Only a buck on Amazon.

John DeChancie announced a new book: The Pirates of Perilous. $12.99.

Eric Hoffman noted the passing of Eric Caidin of Hollywood Book and Poster passed away at the Film Noir film fest

The store will remain open, at least for the time being.


Milt Stevens reviewed Skin Game by Jim Butcher. Sort of a cross between a fantasy novel and dead men don’t wear plaid. It’s formula, but Butcher does well with it.  (Now if he could collaborate with Ed Baker and Raymond Chandler….)

Eric Hoffman: Blacke’s Magic, where Alexander Blacke, played by Hal Linden… Found a couple of recordings, and so we’re hoping this will be seen by a larger audience.

Scratch watched two movies.  Avengers, and the one he can’t remember.  Tomorrowland. Enjoyed both.

CLJII: Decades has finished running The Fugitive. Still thinks the best things about the last two episodes was the new LA Zoo and the climax at Pacific Ocean Park.


Frank Waller: Super Car sunday is coming. South Topanga Mall.

Joe Zeff: Putridity that Digby would have appreciated.  In an online survey, asked if he were under 30 or over 30, leaving a curious gap or omission.

CLJII: Barnaby book: quotes on the back, some of which are worthy of remark.  “This book is the most important addition to arts and letters in how many years “ dorothy parker.

Put chairs away.

Adjournment: It was moved and seconded, and we adjourned to the program at 8:51.
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Meeting # 3259, Jan 27, 2000 PDF Print E-mail


Meeting # 3259, Jan 27, 2000

Cathy Beckstead, President

Karl Lembke, Scribe

January 27, 2000

"Good evening!"

"It's evening. I make no warranties, express or implied," said President Beckstead, in a fit of legalities.

"It's not evil," said CLJII, "I know the face of evil. It has my fist print on its jaw."

Having settled that this was at least not an evil evening, President Beckstead gavelled the meeting into order at 20:10:14.

It was moved and seconded that tonight be officially be called a good evening.

Special Order of Business A.E. Van Vogt died yesterday, Wednesday the 26th, at the age of 87. He was a long time member of LASFS, and spoke at the LASFS 60th anniversary banquet. He was given a minute of silence, and next week's program will be dedicated to a memorial. There will be a memorial service at Callanan's Mortuary, 1301 N. Western, at 10:00 AM, Monday.

The Menace were read, corrected, and approved as "That's Hedly Lamarr!"

Patron Saint Rick Sneary, a nice guy who gave the club money, was honored with the customary three cheers.


CLJII announced that the coming Sunday would be SWEMS, or Superbowl weekend movies. Be there or be something vaguely distasteful. Also, the January Amazing Adventures is out today.

Liz took a poll to see how many LASFen could commit to bleeding for a LASFS blood drive. We need to commit to at least 40 pints. If the drive falls through, members are urged to call the Red Cross at 1-800-GIVE-LIFE and schedule a donation on their own.

Leigh Strother-Vien announced that the club would receive 10% from any prepaid Avon orders until February 25.

Francis Hamit announced an A/D Video show at the Burbank Hilton. If you're interested in digital video, the show is well worth attending. If you're not, it's not.

Kris Bauer mentioned that videotapes of the CNN millennium coverage were available for $10, at the Fry's in reseda, for the moment.

Auction Committee Bruce Pelz announced that some sort of triage process had to be implemented for auction items, and stuck to. People have developed a bad habit of leaving stuff on the table, where it never gets properly checked in. Members were asked to come up with suggestions for a triage process.
We then auctioned off a bunch of stuff, to clear out the cabinets. The auction is alleged to have netted the club some $300.

The meeting was then adjourned, at 21:38:41.

Meeting # 3258, Jan 20, 2000 PDF Print E-mail


Meeting # 3258, Jan 20, 2000

Cathy Beckstead, President

Karl Lembke, Scribe

Quick! A dragon is eating the moon! We need to scare it away! Let's have a LASFS meeting!!!

Special Orders of Business: Hedy Lamarr, 86. She was in the worst fantasy movie ever, "The Story of Mankind". She also starred in "The Heavenly Body", as one of the heavenly bodies. She is quoted as having said, "Any girl can be glamourous, all you have to do is stand still and be stupid." In 1942, she received a patent for the process of "spread spectrum" radio communication, a process now used in many cellular phones and computer links. How she managed to be glamourous despite her severe deficit of stupidity is a question that may never be resolved.
Also among the newly deceased is John Newland, host of "Alcoa Presents", later syndicated as "One Step Beyond". He also directed many shows, including "Alfred Hitchcock Presents", "Fantasy Island", and "Wonder Woman".

The Menace were read, corrected and approved as "A Scratch Bid".

Old Business: The President is still working on committees.

Patron Saint: Jeff Siegel, one of Alex's best friends. He is a retired USAF major, and a specialist in cryptography. He's been a LASFan since age 11. He was given three cheers and something I can't quite decipher.

There was no New Business, despite Joe Zeff's generous offer to provide some.

Registrar: We had no Shaun, so we had guests. Welcome, Charles, Jenny, Brian and Steve.

Committee Reports

Archives: Mike Stern presented some material to Bob Null, as a representative of the Archive committee, a photograph of Walt Doherty and Russ Hodgkins, restored by Skiffy, and donated by Forest J Ackerman.

Recycling: Bob Null reported that we can now accept just about any beverage container for recycling. Only, please rinse containers before depositing them!

E-Mail List: Joe Zeff has been sending e-mail messages pursuant to his new committee. As soon as he has enough replies, he'll begin distributing the list. Also, the LASFS directory update sheet is hanging in the front building. Please add any updates.

Summer Holiday: CLJII notes that last year's Summer Holiday party took place in autumn. In the spirit of balance, he plans to schedule this year's in the spring, at Vasquez Rocks.

FWEMS: This Sunday, featuring movies from the turn of the century to the 20s or so.

SWEMS: Two serials will be shown during the Superbowl Weekend Movie Showing: "Burn 'em Up Barns" and "The Spider's Web". A vote will be taken as to whether the serials will be shown contiguously or non-contiguously.

Cinema Anime: Brett Achorn announced this event, starting at 1:00 PM, the second Saturday of every month.

C/FO: The Cartoon/Fantasy Organization meets the third Saturday of each month.


Doug Crepeau announced that Winston Smith was apparently on the loose, and deleting his pearls of wit from the LASFS website. (Maybe his comments weren't Y2K compliant.)

CLJII announced that this was the last week to subscribe to Amazing Adventures. Also, according to the Amazing Adventures Calendar, today is Swashbuckler's Day. So swash your buckles!

Fannish Committee Reports

Joe Zeff, on vacation from work this week, had to draw on experiences from a previous week. He reported on a man who was being assisted in getting his computer up and online. The man mentioned how he hated computers. When asked why he was using one, he replied that he needed to get online so he could do online trading. Joe apparently declined to ask him whether he owns a gun.

Doug Crepeau mentioned an item from Culver City, in which a man foiled the reposession of his car by lying down across the driveway, athwart the path of the car, until the police arrived. The name of the man is not at this time known to be Arthur Dent.




Chaz Baden mentioned that the pix he takes are winding up on his website,

Don Wenner noted that a recent episode of "The X Files" was filmed in the vicinity. Jerry Pournelle wondered why they didn't just film an episode at the clubhouse. Karl Lembke replied that the program had to maintain a certain minimum amount of credibility.

Frank Waller stated that he had more free tickets for the L.A. Cabaret.

CLJII called the club's attention to a cake, made in honor of Swashbuckler's Day.

Scratch Galloway offered a projection TV to a good home. He also mentioned the program, SETI@Home, out of Berkeley, which harnesses the power of large numbers of computers on the Net to grind through radio signal data from Arecibo. A program runs as a screen saver on individual computers, and crunches data during the computer's idle time. When it finishes a block of data, it sends back the results and downloads another 300K.

A motion to not adjourn was defeated at 21:03:30, and the members left to moon around.

Meeting # 3257, Jan 13, 2000 PDF Print E-mail


Meeting # 3257

Bob Null, VP, presiding

Karl Lembke, Scribe

Jan 13, 2000

"This is a theater", stated Hare Hobbs, "of the absurd."
"Sit down, shut up. Let's get this over with," was President Beckstead's sage advice.

The "it" we had to get over with was gavelled into order at 20:12:43.

Special Orders of Business: Don Martin, cartoonist with Mad Magazine, and an illustrator for Galaxy died Friday morning. Matthew Tepper remarked on how heartwarming it was to see how well loved he was among the members of the press who wrote of his passing. Most of them had probably grown up on his cartoons. He was 68.
Mark Davis, one of the Nine Old Men of Disney, created Snow White, Tinkerbell, Cinderella, among other characters.
Pat O'Brian, author of the modern "Hornblower" series.

The Menace were read, corrected, and approved as "elegant in a corset". Don't ask.

Old Business: Committees are being worked on.

New Business: A motion was waiting on the table for some sort of action:

We, the undersigned, believe that there are too many consonants in LASFS. In order to promote a vowel movement, we think that LASFS should buy a vowel.
Signed by: Mike Stern, Joe Zeff, Mike Galloway, W. E. Hooper, June Moffatt, and Matthew Tepper.

After some discussion, Jerry Pournelle offered to give LASFS a vowel. At his per-word rates, he must be bucking for another sainthood. There followed some discussion as to which vowel LASFS should obtain. The secretary is rooting for one with an umlaut. Those are really cool.

It was moved that LASFS accept a free vowel from the Niven/Pournelle Alliance (NPA).

Patron Saint Bruce Pelz was given three cheers and some stickers on his trunk.

New Committee: Liz Mortensen announced that she was now the charity coordinator for the club. Her inaugural project for the club is providing handmade blankets for children going thorough chemotherapy and radiation treatment for cancer. Club members are being asked to donate yarn and/or completed granny squares, to be made into blankets. The preferred size of a completed blanket is about 40" X 60". We will be collecting blankets at HuLaLaCon.

Board Election: Congratulations are offered to Michaels Mason and Galloway, for dodging the bullet, and condolences to Shaun Lyon, who is now on the board.

Registrar: Since Shaun was in the house, Beckie reported that we had no guests.

Committee Reports

Special Project: Joe Zeff mentioned a project that Chaz Baden had been working on, and let lapse. Joe will now be taking up this project in an official capacity. Anyone who wants to be included in the project has to let the Joe Zeff know.

LASFS.ORG: Still looking for a new home. We need lots of space, lots of addresses, and the ability to host mailing lists.

Magic the (FIX!!) Gathering: First place was (FIX!!) Mike Stern. Second, Bruce P; Third: Ken. Drew managed to be in fifth place or thereabouts.

Festival of Books: Greg Bilan notes that now that we have the money for a table, we need LASFen to man the tables (or is that "fan" the tables) over the weekend.

FWEMS: CLJII announced that the 4th Sunday would feature films from the turn of the century (this century still) until about 1928.

SWEMS: Superbowl weekend will feature "Burn 'em Up Barns" and "Spider's Web".

Cinema Anime is still on for the Second Saturday of each month, Brett Achorn reported.

C/FO will be meeting this week.


Eylat announced that Live the Dream will be having a Star Trek marathon. See fliers in the front building.

Hare mentioned the post-holiday blood shortage at the Red Cross (aggravated by the fact that it's flu season), and suggested that LASFS get together for a blood sacrifice. He was told to coordinate with Liz.

Francis Hamit mentioned that he had sold his ninth Y2K article, this one about what went right. One thing that did go wrong was that we lost both sets of spy satellites for about three days. (Or is that what went right?)

Time Meddlers will be meeting Sunday.

The NPA: Larry Niven showed off the cover of a new book, "Saturn's Race" by Larry Niven and Steven Barnes. Also in the lineup are, "Rainbow Mars", now out in paperback, N-Space, being reissued, and Burning City by Niven and Pournelle.

Jerry Pournelle remarked that he made his money off of Y2K by selling the same article nine times. (Jerry, was it the definite, or indefinite article you sold?)
The British government is still trying to decide where to send Pinochet. Anyone with an opinion should send his mail to Parliament before they finalize the decision.

Greg Barrett mentioned that 21st Century Comics will be having a sale over the weekend. Prices will be 30% off Friday, and 40% off Saturday and Sunday.

Someone mentioned He hasn't been hooked up yet, but he'll keep us posted.

Doug Wenner plugged storytelling sessions around town.

CLJII thanked Doug Crepeau for calling his attention to the memorial for Clayton Moore. It will be this Sunday at the Autrey Museum in Griffith Park.
He also announced that time is running out to buy your subscription to Amazing Adventures.
Also, Galen Tripp mentioned to him that while visiting his parents, he saw LASFan Jim Dennis on the E-D channel, talking about Linux.
Finally, he needs to replace his housekeeper. Anyone willing to be an employee of the county can get a job working for about 16 hours a month sweeping, taking out trash, and doing other chores that Charlie's CP doesn't allow him to do.

Woody Dodge announced that collectors edition SF books were being published in limited editions, signed and numbered. For details, go to

Fannish Committee Reports

Scratch Galloway mentioned that he received a statement from Bank of America. It urged him to send money, because he had a balance due of zero.

Francis Hamit noted that six of his neighbors had their telephones cut off for nonpayment. They had not responded to bills sent Tuesday, January 2, 2000. Of course, since that particular Tuesday fell on a Sunday this year, no one delivered the bills.


Hare Hobbs enjoyed Frontier Earth by Bruce Boxleitner.

Ed Hooper recommends the Warlands comic series.


Frank Waller warned us that a new dentist is moving in next door, and that we should "make nice".

Mike Stern mentioned that new officers of the BOD had been elected. Mike Stern is now Chairman; Bruce Pelz is Chair of Vice, and Mike Glyer is secretary and comptroller.

A motion to get the heck out of here was passed at 21:24:37.

Addendum: Scratch Galloway's comment is "No."

Meeting # 3256, January 6, 2000 PDF Print E-mail


Meeting # 3256

Cathy Beckstead, President

Karl Lembke, Scribe

January 6, 2000

"Mr. Bilan gave me a hat," said Cathy. She picked up the emergency back-up president and tossed it over to the side of the room, saying, "You! You've been overthrown." (Or is that thrown over?)

Los Angeles Science Fantasy Society Meeting number 3256, the first meeting of the new year, and the first meeting of the last year of the millennium, was gavelled into order at 20:12:58.

There were no Special Orders of Business.

The Menace were read and approved as "coted".

There was some Old Business. Bill Ellern gave a statement with respect to his motion from last week. Considerable discussion ensued.

Nominations for the Board
People nominated for the board were:
Shaun Lyon
Mike Mason
Scratch Galloway

Committee Reports

LASFS.ORG is still down. The IP address needs to be changed by hand, and it will be, this weekend. A motion was made that the club allocate up to $500 to buy web hosting service at a place where we can call someone else up and have that person reset our web site for us. The motion passed. A committee to look in to the matter was established.

Magic the (FIX!) Gathering: This Friday is the first tournament of the year. See if you can dislodge Drew.

Final Sunday: Cliffhangers will be shown. "Burn 'em Up Barns" and "Spider's Web".

FWEMS: This month features films from the pre-talkies era.

Cinema Anime: Meets at 2:00 PM this Saturday.

TRIPE: Meets the first Sunday of each month.

C/FO: Cartoon/Fantasy Organization meets on the 15th this month.

LADWVS: The Los Angeles Dr. Who Viewing Society meets the first Monday of each month.

Program: This week, nominations for the board. Next week, voting.

Registrar: We welcome David, a guest who has not yet fled the premises.

Patron Saints: First saint of the week is Dan Alderson, after whom the parking space is named. He may be said to be responsible for parking stuff in orbits outside the asteroid belt, since he wrote the software responsible for guiding all space craft through the belt. Some mention was made of the possibility of renaming the asteroid belt the Alderson belt, and Jerry Pournelle suggested that getting an asteroid named after him was more likely.
He was given three cheers and a weep! wail!
Moving to the other end of the alphabet, we honor Joe Zeff, who has given us numerous computer user reports, and a thousand dollars. Three cheers and sideburns!


Frank Waller announced that Wizard 01 and Rising Star 4 are out.

Dale Hales plugged the Atomic Clock fund. Make your contributions now before you forget!

Cathy Carder announced that Terry Pratchett would be at a book signing at Vromans, April 4th.

Shaun Lyon announced Gallifrey One, over President's Day weekend. There will be over 50 guests.

CLJII announced that the window of opportunity to buy your Amazing Adventures subscription would be closing soon. Ante up before your fingers get caught in the sill.
Also, there is a new mathematical constant in existence. Prinn's Constant is defined as the number of A's one has gotten in school. Charlie notes that in his case, Prinn's constant is a variable, having increased this past week.

Cathy Beckstead announced that one of the clubhouse's neighbors had lost a cat, and called our attention to the posters all over the place.

Kris Bauer announced that the grades of several students at Pierce College had been posted, including Valentina's. Those were well worth posting.


Doug Crepeau, in his first Y2K Murphy report, noted that:
The social security agency was not quite fixed.
The wrong date appeared on a Star Trek website. (What was the star date for 1900?)
Automatic doors at one nuclear plant refused to open for a while, locking the techs out of some sections of the plant
The U.S. thwarted terrorist attacks in eight countries.
In a sexual assault case, the ages of the assailant and victim were listed as 83 and 80, due to a date glitch.
Doug also mentioned the existence of a Klingon playmate website.

Mike Stern gave a stupid user report of his own. A medicare doctor complained that the software was giving him dates in the year 1900. He was receiving two digit years, and his own system was prepending the "19".

Joe Zeff mentioned a user who "never thought of thinking for himself at all".


Hare Hobbs reviewed Fantasia 2000. The Donald Duck sequence was the most fun, and the piece with the whales was gorgeous.

Glenn thought the best part of Fantasia 2000 was the Rhapsody in Blue, and Sorcerer's Apprentice was the worst, due to Disney having tried to restore the original cells. He noted that it doesn't hang together as the original Fantasia did.

Darcee Found that the first segment of Fantasia 2000 did not hold her interest.

Mike Thorsen expressed agreement with previous reviews of Toy Story 2. The worst thing he had to say about Stuart Little was that the wet cats didn't move as realistically as the dry ones did.

Mike Stern read Frontier Earth by Bruce Boxleitner, and wishes he hadn't.

Bill Ellern found The Fifth Elephant by Terry Pratchett to be excellent.

Scratch is now looking for the next issue of Honor Harrington, Napoleonic Wars in Space. I guess he liked the ones that came before.

Alan Rothstein, in an echo of Mike Sterns review, mentioned that he read a book once and didn't like it either.

Ed Baker found MZB's Shadow Matrix to be a decent book.

Brett Achorn displayed the new Fantasia 2000 coffee table book. It's well worth putting on your coffee table. Or attach four legs to it...

Eylat Polliner mentioned that Galaxy Quest was great, and Bicentennial Man was extremely well done.


John DeChancie notes that Bicentennial Man follows the novel quite closely.

Mike Thorsen noted that the club would be having a table at the Festival of Books, April 29 and 30.

CLJII announced the Stats for the year just ended. First movie of the year was Star Wars IV, last was "It's a Wonderful Life". He saw 198 movies for the first time, and 290 total.

We moved to Rob Cole at 21:34:56.

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