LASFS Minutes ("Menace")
Meeting # 4068, 7/30/2015 PDF Print E-mail

Minutes of the LASFS


Matthew Tepper presiding


Kristen Gorlitz, Scribe


Patron Saints, Sean Cleary and David Okamura



President Matthew Tepper called meeting number 4068 to order at 8:00 pm. No joke!


Special Orders of Business:


Tom Locke - Claudia Alexander died last week. She was the project manager at JPL, and one of her projects was the Galileo at the conclusion of the mission. Engineer and scientific researcher. Writer in steampunk genre (short stories). Vocal about African Americans to get involved in STEM type careers. Died of cancer age 56.


Matthew is sad to report passing of LASFS member Adrienne Martine-Barnes. the obituary does not give much information. She was a seamstress, costumer, and was awarded the wooden spoon for culinary skills.



Minutes of the last meeting were read by some imposter of last week’s scribe, with minimal corrections. Tom Safer paid $1 to name the minutes “Where no saga has gone before”


Time-Bound Announcements:



Treasurer’s Report:

We have some money and you can’t spend it. This figure does not include the termite work which was done on Friday. See the Treasurer for details.


Committee Reports:

CLJ II :There are changes in scheduling. Eric Hoffman has a program which revolves around Stan Freberg on the 2nd meeting of this month, Aug 13th

Forray award voting is moved to 2nd meeting of Sept (Sept 10th)

CLJII passed around the Lantern O’Jack to help pay for the Autumn holiday party, which will be Oct 31st on Dan Alderson’s birthday. There will be no naked dancing in the streets.

It was noted that naked dancing on the street cannot be done in this building.

Tom Safer: TSPC (Tom Safer Presents Cartoons) Peter O’Toole in My Favorite Year, made in 1982. Very enjoyable film. 10:00 am on Aug 15th

Sept 19th - Screening of Star Trek Continues episodes “Pilgrim of Eternity” and “Lolani”. Larry Nemecek, who plays Dr. Leonard McCoy, will be here to answer questions

3rd Saturday of Oct - Continue Star Trek Continues series with episodes 3-4

CLJ II: Announcement - Film coordination committee. This Sunday, Aug 9th from 3-10pm, there will be a screening of Lee Van Cleef Films, admission is free to members and guests



We have a guest!

Russell Frazier - from Montrose, recommended by Joel Eisenberg, has never been to LASFS before.he likes to meet people with similar interests. He is an artist. Likes stories, design, and prognostication. Graphic and visual effects artist.


We had a small auction!

CLJ II: held a money auction - US 1 cent piece with wheat on back, 1951. Sold to Scratch for $0.25, $0.20 from Matthew

Another 1 cent piece, 1925. Sold to Ed Hooper for $2, Frank $1.50


Patron Saints:


Patron Saint Sean Cleary:

David Okamura - Saw him at Westercon, Has two daughters also into fannish things. Very interested in film. Wishes he could see him more often.

Matthew Tepper - Remembers him from meetings in the late 80s, pleasant fellow


Three cheers and a third of a great last name


Patron Saint David Okamura:

(David wearing devil ears)

Scratch: Know for his paper model making. Does nice plastic work. He has great patience to gleam the papers and find science articles to enlighten us with, which is to the sci-fi and fantasy club’s advantage.

CLJ II: David is a fine fellow and a good chum to have. Charles playfully warns against telling David about things you are interested in, because then he will scan articles for that information and relay his many findings to you

Tom Safer: Commends him from traveling from Orange County and sharing information with us at the club

Debra Levin: Reiterates what others have said, David is a nice guy who does lots of good things for the club.

Matthew Tepper: David has taken great care of the club’s tame vegetation and also helping to tame the vegetation


Three loving cheers for David Okamura. And Martin Van Buren. He’s okay too.



A Moment of Science, with David Okamura

David Okamura reports of an incident in Narragansett on July 11, there was an explosion on the beach that hurled a woman onto a rock jetty. Many thought it was a terrorist attack, but it was actually a hydrogen bomb. An electric cable was abandoned by the coastguard and found deteriorating due to salt water. they found pockets that had 10k times expected amount of hydrogen.

Chrysler - it has been a hard year for them with all recalls, and now recently Wired magazine publicized that hackers can take over one of their jeeps

SpaceX coming up with own explanation for the accident. The government has released their report concerning Virgin Galactic 2 crash saying it was pilot error. The pilot had unlocked the feathering . The government faulted the creators of the craft for allowing something like that to happen. Not enough safety equipment to prevent accidental release of tail feathers. They are also faulting the FAA for not doing their due diligence.

Recently, science has gotten to a point where we can identify and discover the remains of historical personalities and find out much more about how they lived. Among those identified are Richard III, the woman who inspired the Mona Lisa painting, and Cervantes, who was identified in Spain. They learned that they misidentified Philip II remains and now have identified his true bones. The Navy has exhumed the graves of unknown servicemen from the USS Oklahoma at Pearl Harbor. The Military had been reluctant to do this out of respect for the dead, but there was pressure from surviving relatives.

Boeing has recently come up with a new submarine. Large submersible, unmanned, with largo cargo capacity, that can do extended dives. And it may be used pretty soon. They have found the part of the Boeing 777 that could be part of Malaysian airliner. Drift patterns will show how it traveled during this time.


Aetna warning at 8:54pm


Board Member Presentation:

Termites - we have been de-termited. They injected poison into the doorframe. As of tonight there does not seem to be any more termite activity. Let Elaine know if you see any evidence of termites.



Old Business: None


New Business: None



CLJ II: Reviewed the Orange County Fair - an ongoing event. Fun, has stuff going on, was there yesterday. Spent most of time window shopping. Can get Australian batter dipped potatoes. All kinds of events going on. Saw baby piggies already lying under heat lamps. Lots of things to see. Woodworking, table working. And it’s only a few dollars to attend.

Milt Stevens: Finished Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell series. Rates it extra creepy. He particularly notes the scene where an old woman is turned into a cat. He remembers having read the novel, and that novel won a Hugo. Says it worked better in the visual medium. Forgot it in novel form.

Doug Crepeau: They are going to bring back the Muppet Show as a behind the scenes style instead of the traditional show. It looks up to date. He has a link on his facebook page for a preview.

Tom Safer: Did a screening at Hollywood Library - Most recent version of Annie, stars Jamie Foxx and Quvenzhané Wallis, and he was disappointed. They kept a majority of the songs, but it sounds like a rock band versus a broadway orchestra. Did not like the orchestration. Scenes were changed. It was not what he saw on the stage.

CLJ II: Milt reminded Charles of a creepy series of commercials for KFC, stars Darrell Hammond as the demented creepy dead version of Colonel Sanders.

It as noted that Yum foods owns Colonel Sanders, and Taco Bell.

Jill: Saw Ant-Man, actually quite amusing. Has romance, little of this, little of that. Recommends it.

Frank: SNL is not what it used to be.

George: Brand Music Library in Glendale has a music concert every Friday at 7. Free. Nice variety.




Joe Zeff: For fans of the Doctor. We probably now know where Gallifrey is now. Crater named Darth Vader. And Cthulhu being named. Provisional names only.

Bill Green: Tomorrow night is a night of the blue moon.

CLJ II: Guy who named other half of Pluto, named Sharon, Cheron

Frank: Glendale Galleria mall, found a Dr. Who store, mostly fashion stuff.

Debra: Quack

Larry Niven: His agent announced that Ringworld is going to electronic form! If Delray books objects, she will have to withdraw it. But Delray books tends not to pay much attention.

Tom Safer: Sports report - Indians vs Royals, Royals pitcher was intentionally aiming for indians players and hit them, but he was not ejected. One of the players who was hit was ejected. The Indians then proceeded to score 6 runs in 1 inning, and the ones hit by pitcher were part of the scoring process. Final score 12-1 Indians.

Jerry Pournelle: Topic of discussion - how particularly are we going to entertain this motion?

Matthew: we will entertain it with wine and cheese.



Motion to adjourn and put chairs away at: 9:23 pm.

Last Updated ( Thursday, 17 September 2015 )
Meeting # 4067, 7/23/2015 PDF Print E-mail

Minutes of the LASFS



Matthew Tepper presiding


Nick Smith, Scribe


Patron Saints Ed Green and Tom Safer


President Matthew Tepper called the meeting # 4067 to a poor semblance of order at: 8:00 pm


Special Orders of Business:


Anne Morrell, longtime member of the club and wife of Bill Ellern, died a few hours after last week’s meeting. Anne, who had brightened many a club auction and LosCon art show, had spent years giving out Hall Costume prizes at LosCon. She was a lively and active fan for many years until encountering severe health problems that had confined her to a wheelchair in recent times.

Bill and his daughter are at tonight’s meeting. A full minute of silence was given in her honor.


Theodore Bikel passed away at age 91. In addition to being a longtime folksinger [a regular on Hootenanny in the early 1960s], he had an acting career that included character roles in many classic films [The African Queen, My Fair Lady and Moulin Rouge, among others]. He was the original Captain Von Trapp in The Sound of Music on Broadway, spoke several languages and sang in twenty. He also had roles in various genre TV shows, including Twilight Zone, Babylon 5, Mission Impossible, Beauty and the Beast, Star Trek: Next Generation, and as the voice of Aragorn in the animated Return of the King.



Minutes of the last meeting were read to wild acclaim and minimal corrections. David Okamura paid $4 to name the minutes “The Pentaquark Papers.”


Guests: No guests. Tsk.


Time-Bound Announcements:

Tom Safer—Monster Hunters USA is a web series, created by his friend Michael McDonough. We have cards with info about the series.

Marcia Minsky—Loscon meeting Sunday at 1 pm

Eric Hoffman—His program coming up in August may be either Stan Freberg stuff or trailers...see Eric with preferences

Tom Safer—there are brownies in the back room [fresh chocolate is always time-bound, as chocolate brownies with fresh icing should never be allowed to get stale!]


Treasurer’s Report:

We have money, and you can't spend it. Termite work is about to happen.


Committee Reports:

CLJ: Tom Safer cartoons tonight, no program next week

August 13 is the entire programming for the month of August, with whatever Eric does.

August 23rd’s FWEMS program will feature a restored version of It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World, along with the director's cut of 1941. CLJ II promises that it actually makes sense in this version, which restores the 30 minutes the studio took away.

September 3 is the Forry Awards voting

September 17 is the next big auction

September 24 is a program on Bride of Frankenstein’s 80th anniversary. She’s well preserved for her age.

Fall’s holiday party on the 4th Sunday of October, and the Lantern O’Jack was passed to collect start-up funds for the venture. If we can’t celebrate on Halloween, celebrating on the anniversary of the death of Vincent Price seems oddly appropriate.

Tom Safer:TSPC in August, Peter O'Toole in My Favorite Year, along with cartoons

September 19: Star Trek Continues screening, with guest Larry Nemecek. More on October 17.

Marcia Minsky: July 26th at 1 pm LosCon meeting.

Committee to Gouge had a small auction


Patron Saints:

Ed Green

Hair Hobbs mentions the stories he told about his time in the military.

Tom Safer remembered disagreements with Ed about doing cartoon programs at meetings, and the result was the Saturday time slot which still flourishes

CLJ II mentioned that Ed was part of his stock company of characters in his stories. Ed has provided story research for some of the stories as well.

Joe Zeff: For a number of years he ran the Fughead contest, about memorable fannish activity

June Moffatt: Ed was one of the generation of fans that came up through Moffatt House.

Matthew Tepper: in 1991 the meetings of the club were, um, lacking in form and function. He and Ed teamed up to try to make things better. The team was called “Order and Merriment,” with Ed serving four terms as president and Matthew serving four terms as scribe. They were then paroled for good behavior, and Matthew ran for President, so someone nominated Ed as scribe, as an apparent joke. He won. The point was that both put in the effort to structure both offices so that successors could do them without having to reinvent the square wheel.

Scratch: I wish he was here today.

Frank Waller: Ed kept Frank in line, but nicely.

Larry Niven: Passed Ed in the hall at a convention, and Ed had a quarrel with someone on the con staff about money, and Ed put out a begging cup. Larry joined him, and someone added a placard “Will daydream for food.”

CLJ mentioned his acting career, which has never made Ed a star, but has made him happy.

Hip hip hooray and cheers from Giuseppe Verdi


Patron Saint Tom Safer:

Eric Hoffman: Tom is the only person I know who knows everything about cartoons. He puts fantastic shows together, is a good friend and very lucky to have his wife.

Scratch: He has a gentle way of inflicting his 2-D dreams on everyone else.

David: Tom is very willing to help out, such as when he helped John Hertz at Westercon.

Debra: Tom is one of the warmest, kindest, sweetest people I've ever known.

Joe: Not only does Tom produce excellent cartoon shows, he is also gracious about honoring requests.

Matthew: Tom sings in choruses and choirs, including the Burbank Chorale, the mention of which was followed by a pun that the scribe refuses to repeat.

CLJ II: He sings like a larch

Scratch: He sings in the shower. Discussion ensued on how Scratch would know this and whether it was actually true.

Anna Safer: We have been married for 24 years, and he has been there in grief and happiness, the light of my life, as well as a singer and pianist.

Hooray, and Rabbit Season [Duck Season]


Aetna warning at 8:53 pm


A Moment of Science, with David Okamura

It's beginning to look a lot like El Nino. Santa Barbara has okayed the un-mothballing of a desalinization plant built in the 1970s.

Pluto is providing more information to New Horizons. This week, more mountains.

Passing of the last mission specialist for the Magellan Probe. Claudia Alexander passed away in her 50s. She was also a steampunk fan and worked on other JPL projects, not necessarily in that order.

SpaceX is blaming a metal strut on the second stage as the cause of the last launch failure of the Falcon 9. Because the strut came from a subcontractor, Elon Musk suggests that SpaceX needs to do more parts testing on their own. A submarine has been hired to search for the cargo capsule, but this capsule did not have an emergency parachute, so even if found, it may not be salvageable. David Okomura - it did have a parachute but not software to deploy it

A new study has linked poor sleep with Alzheimer's. The cause/effect cycle is not yet clear.

Dr. Pournelle pointed out that eventually, something will kill you.

David pointed out that women suffering from Alzheimer's decline much faster than men. As yet, this cause/effect cycle is also not yet clear.

The Keppler telescope has detected what is apparently an Earth-sized planet in the temperate orbital zone of its star, roughly 1400 light years away.

Dr. Pournelle comments on how unusual parts failure of a rocket really are. They are normally built to a safety factor of about 10. If you're sure you overbuilt the part, you bore holes to reduce weight. It seems odd to him that this mechanical failure occurred, and speculates that someone took a chance on weight vs. strength and erred in the wrong direction.




Old Business: None


New Business: None



Marcia Minsky read To Set a Watchman by Harper Lee and is still very confused.

It flashes back and forth in time, and she has to re-read it. Some parts very funny.

Milt Stevens read another NESFA-recommended book: The Mechanical by Ian Tregellis. Felt uncomfortable with a Steampunk/magic combination with alchemy, golems rowing galleys, and the Evil Dutch.



CLJ II—For 30-some years, his telephone service has gotten crazy whenever it rains. AT&T fixes it, and says water was getting into the box, and it won't happen again. It has, fifteen times. This time, the repairman also patched the hole in the box.

Also, Disneyland info from opening day, via David Okamura: Mr. Toad's Wild Ride was given a very interesting description in print compared to the reality. Either very odd hype or a serious redesign at the last minute.


Frank Waller had a brain scan. He has one. He is now on anti-seizure medicine, and is scheduled for surgery in October for other things.

Supercar Sunday on August 2nd, lots of cool stuff and celebrities at the Westfield Topanga Plaza, 6100 Topanga Canyon Blvd.


Adjourn to Program and subsequent chair-moving at: 9:20 pm.

Meeting # 4063, Jun 25, 2015 PDF Print E-mail

Matthew Tepper presiding

Karl Lembke, Scribe

Patron Saint Alan Frisbie

(Portions read at the meeting are highlighted like this.)

President Matthew Tepper tossed meeting #4063 onto the roof at 8:00.

Special orders of business:

Musicologist Matthew Tepper notes the passing of James Horner, writer of well-known theme music for many a film.

CLJII announced the loss of Patrick McNee, star of The Avengers, and Satan on Battlestar Galactica.  It was announced Tuesday, and was about to be torn off the internet as a hoax when he actually did die.

In honor of their memory, we had a brief moment of Cylons -- er SILENCE

Menace from last meeting were read.  David Okamura bid $5 to name them “I’ll let the Scribe name them.” They were so accepted.

Thanks to Scribe for lengthy service.

Time Bound Announcements!

Registrar Ed Hooper introduced Dan Miller from Hawaii.

Dan rose to address the club on the subject of a documentary project about artist Paul Lehr.

Nick Smith notes Saturday and Sunday, Long Beach is being invaded by pirates, mermaids, and fairies, at Belmont Pier. This is produced by the Living History center.

CLJII announced a memorial screening to celebrate the life and career or Christopher Lee this weekend. Saturday, starting at noon.

Creature Features on Magnolia and Catalina are having an art show. Theme this month is variations on Frankenstein’s Bride.

Nick Smith has free tix for a fannish play, part of the Hollywood Fringe Festival. Wombatman, a parody of comics, at the Underground Theater on Wilton.

Committee Reports

The committee to gouge money held a small auction.

Tom Safer: TSPC is being re-scheduled for July 11 from the 18th. This presents a live action film, The Twelve Chairs by Mel Brooks.  Start time is 10 AM.

The Treasurer’s report: We have money.

You can’t spend it.

Programs (CLJII for now)

June 25, More Like the Movies, part I.

July 2, More Like the Movies part 2

After that, to be announced.

June 28: Last Sunday of June, G Men vs the Black Dragon and Daredevils of the West, which will be interleaved. IT starts at 2 PM, should run until 10 or so.

We honored tonight’s Patron Saint:

Patron Saint Alan Frisbie

Joe Zeff: Before cell phones became common, one year the contact number for Loscon was Alan’s car phone, by mistake. He is also the only member to have been ejected from his own saint’s night meeting.

Matthew: He is a programmer from Cal Tech. His business card lists his occupation as “thaumaturgist”.

Marty Cantor: He’s related to the family of the famous flying disc

Nick Smith: He’s a fan of acoustic music, and Nick runs into him at such venues from time to time.

Glenn Olson: First met at a dinner party. He had just returned from a hair-raising adventure. He had gone to South America and ridden a train there. He spent some time sitting in the front of the locomotive. He spent many hours crossing the country on the outside of a train

From the Hagiography:

Sacred Flying Disc

one of two LASFS "human wallets", the other being Randy Grainer

built Altair Niven; ,the only LASFS member ever donated to the club and the only member ever auctioned off to the highest bidder. 

managed to addict the entire club to the game of Zork.

first person thrown out of his own patron saint's day meeting

his pet rat was the official mascot of the 1984 worldcon

Patron Saint Alan Frisbie was given three cheers and fresh strawberries.

David Okamura monitored science for the club.

We had a passing at the San diego zoo.  One of the Galapagos tortoises was euthanized. Estimated age was 150.

What do you do with old EV batteries when they’re not completely dead? They’re expensive, difficult to recycle, and difficult to re-use.  They’re being pressed into service as backup power for various installations where you don’t need 100% of capacity.

Amazon is pushing ahead with the idea of delivering packages by drone. They hope to deliver packages up to 5 pounds.

Air force drone pilots are starting to suffer from overuse. Drones are our weapon of choice, so pilots are getting up to 65 patrols a day. The pilots are in their trailers in the Nevada desert are showing signs of PTSD at the rate of in person pilots.

Old Business

Election of Scribe. The Tag Team of Nick Smith and Kirstin Gorlitz was nominated.

The color of the (nonexistent) ballot was auctioned off, and the winning bidder, the Scribe, named the color “indeScribe-able”.

New Business

There have been accusations of fraud in the running of the election to select the 2016 Loscon. A motion was submitted asking the following two questions:

  1. In your opinion was the election run in a fair and impartial fashion?

  2. Do you feel the results of the election was obtained through fraud?

It was suggested the results be placed in the Minutes.

Christian McGuire suggested the order of the questions be reversed.

The writer of the motion offered no objection.

Jerry Pournelle asked what the point of the resolution was.

There was much discussion.

At the end of the discussion, Jerry Pournelle moved a substitute motion expressing full confidence in the integrity of the voting process for Loscon 43.

24 for, none against, 6 abstaining.

A motion to censure Heide Nichols was ruled out of order, having not been presented in writing.

The treasurer announced we have termites, and you can’t spend them.


Hare Hobbs reviewed Jurassic World. Enjoyed it, and they didn’t retell the original story, even though a lot of the things that happened were the same. The FX are gorgeous.

George McUrso saw Inside Out. Loved it to bits. Well acquainted with some of those emotions.  

Milt Stevens saw a film that might be Hugo-worthy, Chappie, a South African production. A sentient robot that starts out as a police robot. Highly recommended.

Nick Smith notes the gang bangers who trained the robot are played by South African musicains,

Larry Niven said it’s a hoot.

Larry Niven also called Spy a hoot.

CLJII saw a film called Secret Mission, (1942) about a gang of britons who break into France to find an underground air base on the French coast.

Scratch saw three movies. Inside-Out has the cat down pat at the very end.

Tom Safer got to see the new Supergirl pilot. It takes some liberties with Supergirl’s origins, FX are quite good, and it’s worth watching.


CLJII: Sunday the 28th, FWEMS starts at 2PM. Showing G-Men vs Black Dragon and Daredevils of the West.

CLJII will continue as Program Director for the foreseeable future.

People moved to adjourn.

Put chairs away.

It was moved and seconded, and we adjourned to the program at 9:15.
Meeting # 4062, Jun 18, 2015 PDF Print E-mail

Matthew Tepper presiding

Karl Lembke, Scribe

Patron Saint Ted Johnstone

(Portions read at the meeting are highlighted like this.)

President Matthew Tepper forced meeting #4062 to cry UNCLE at 8:00.

Special orders of business:


Menace from last meeting were read.  June Moffatt bid $3 to name them “Covered with Chocolate” They were so accepted.

Michelle was in the middle of a conversation when someone handed her money.  It turns out to be for purchased books. Please stay out of the treasurer’s drawer if you’re not the treasurer.

Time Bound Announcements!

Committee Reports

The Treasurer’s report: We have money

You can’t spend it.

Programs (CLJII for now)

President Tepper is looking for a new programmer for the second half of 2015

June 18, big auction

June 25, More Like the Movies, part I.

July 2, More Like the Movies part 2

After that, to be announced.

June 28: Last Sunday of June, G Men vs the Black Dragon and Daredevils of the West, which will be interleaved. IT starts at 2 PM, should run until 10 or so.

Tom Safer announced TSPC presents something else. The film will be Yellow Submarine. Saturday June 20 at 10 AM

July TSPC will be 7/11, and film is TBA.


Milt Stevens, it turns out the Black Dragon society was real. The Black Dragon was a river in China, that marked how far into China Japanese control should go.

Registrar Ed Hooper announced no guests.

Right at 6PM we did have a returning member visit this clubhouse for the first time. Doug Abe. Alas, he had to leave after dropping off 24 boxes of books.

We honored tonight’s Patron Saint:

Patron Saint Ted Johnstone

Unable to cheer him in person since 1978

Eric Hoffman: Ted was one of the first I met in fandom. Almost as big a film and media buff as I was. Also enjoyed the things he did with Man from UNCLE books.

Nick Smiith: While he was still alive, found myself selling DAVID McDaniel books in several environments.  All the good stuff in the Man from UNCLE books came out of McDaniel’s books. He thought about how the high tech would be used in a spy novel, rather than throwing it in for looks.

Jerry POurnelle: Met at 1963 Chicago convention at a costume party. Jerry went as Radagast the Brown.  Ted comes up and says I, sir, am a hobbit.  Yes, that worked.  

12 years later, working on 20/20 visions, had him do a story. It was a good story, but a miserable affair to get the story out of him. He was very generous and would loan Jerry equipment.

There Will Be War is in print, and 20/20 Visions will be re-issued soon. So he’ll owe the McDaniels money soon.

Larry Niven: David McDaniel and Bruce Pelz introduced him to filking. Filk songs have gotten into many of his stories.

David Okamura: Lee gold still has a framed letter from David McDaniel thanking her for a favor done him. On THRUSH stationery.

June Moffatt had an argument with him about one of his stories, about a mysterious wind that appeared and disappeared, created by a helicopter. The wind was silent and helicopters tend not to be.

Matthew Tepper: He was a good friend, and a father figure. Learned everything he knew about scribing from him and promptly screwed up. He was a presence in life, and has been too long an absence.

CLJII: Met David McDaniel on first joining the club. Familiar with work from having read novels. DAGGER Affair has a scene at Boulder Dam. Found out he viewed himself as a sidekick looking fro a hero, and somehow wound up with CLJII. Discovered he was interested in motion picture direction. He was a brilliant cinematographer, so they partnered up. Working with him was fun and enlightening.

At one time he sent Charlie a letter stamped GeheimStatsPolizei, having found a bunch of Nazi-era stamps.

From the Hagiography:

Pro who wrote stories under his real name (David McDaniel) and conducted fannish life under a pseudonym

fan of Dark Shadows and Man from U.N.C.L.E.

wrote Man from U.N.C.L.E.  novels plus one SF novel and several SF short stories

LASFS scribe

filk singer and writer of filksongs, teamed with Bruce Pelz as singer

camera man and film editor. 

worked on conventions

was part of Arson, Rape and Bloody Murder (Harness, Johnstone, & Pelz)

was the inspiration for James Wong Hound, alias David McDog, in Amazing Adventures

Fanzine editor

a very good storyteller.

Patron Saint Ted Johnstone was given three cheers and a coventry full of stuff.

David Okamura monitored science for the club.

After a nice nap, the Philae comet lander woke up and phoned home. It looks like it’s getting enough light to recharge the batteries.

Folks in Mauna Loa have been isolated in a NASA experiment to see how long they could last in a Mars base style environment.

SpaceX is holding a competition on the hyperloop pod. They want to install a one-mile loop near their Hawthorne headquarters.

Watch out for sharks and drones at Seal beach.

Diets:  FDA has said we have three years to get rid of trans fats.  

A new study from England says chocolate promotes heart health. But this is milk chocolate with less of the flavenoids, so what’s the causal factor?

Old Business: We still don’t have a scribe. Attempts to recruit a volunteer have failed.

If you know anyone willing to take over as Scribe for the second half of 2015, please get in touch.

No New Business


Christin 1q84, translated from Japanese, a play on 1984. At first you think it’s one thing, then another, then you realize it’s a Japanese novel and give up. It’s a SF fantasy mystery thriller involving cults. If you like difficult reads, it’s a very good book, but it was a  challenge for him. Main character seems to have entered an alternative universe.


Tom Safer was at home working out when someone ran into his cinderblock wall. The car left the scene.

People moved to adjourn.

Put chairs away.

It was moved and seconded, and we adjourned to the program at 9:15.
Meeting # 4061, Jun 11, 2015 PDF Print E-mail

Matthew Tepper presiding

Karl Lembke, Scribe

Patron Saints Sandy Cohen, Hare Hobbs

(Portions read at the meeting are highlighted like this.)

President Matthew Tepper Anviled meeting #4061 to what passes for order at 8:00.

Special orders of business:

Age 91, we have lost Ron Moody, who did a number of fantasy roles, including two princes in Merlin, and Fagen in Oliver Twist. John Pertwee was the second choice after Ron Moody, which he said was the worst decision Moody had made.

Christopher Lee: Dracula, a Sith lord, and others. He made villains well known.

Eric Hoffman was lucky enough to meet him several times, and one time was at the screening of the Wicker Man. At the sacrifice scene, he’s pointing out the members of the village in the crowd who were freezing to death because it was supposed to be summer, and it was filmed in winter.

He had a sense of humor, and could be just as insane as everyone else. Warner Bros and Tom and Jerry fans.

In memory of these two, a moment of silence.

Menace from last meeting were read.  Christian McGuire bid $3 to name them “Moist California” They were so accepted.

Time Bound Announcements!

Nick Smith announced the Hollywood Fringe Festival is coming up and has fannish stuff at Theater Asylum.  The Poe Show: Imagine Edgar Allen with a late night talk show.

Alien vs Musical: What if Alien invaded a musical

Orson Wells and Scatman Cruthers in the Transformers movie.

Gavin Claypool has launched a fundraising drive for the club.  With any donation, you get a free 20-inch TV.

Mark Poliner mentioned Jack King, the Voice of NASA has died.

Committee Reports

The Treasurer’s report: We have money

You can’t spend it.

Marcia Minsky announced there will be a Loscon staff meeting Sunday at 1 PM here.

Programs (CLJII)

June 11, procedural elections

June 18, big auction

June 25, More Like the Movies, part I.

June 28: Last Sunday of June, G Men vs the Black Dragon and Daredevils of the West, which will be interleaved.

Tom Safer announced on June 20 TSPC presents something else. The Magical Mystery Tour stinks. The film will be Yellow Submarine. Which doesn’t stink.

July TSPC will be 7/11, and film is TBA.


Registrar Ed Hooper announced no guests.

We honored tonight’s Patron Saints:

Patron Saint Sandy Cohen, and sacred chancellor of chocolate

Eric Hoffman: He’s one of the first I met in fandom. He’s been a good friend.

Joe Zeff: Sandy is a Sacred Object.

Tom Safer: Thank you for bringing the chocolate

Christian: Sandy has been supporting conventions for decades. He’s the go-to man to be in charge of the pro lounge.

Tepper: He’s an excellent photographer.

From the Hagiography:

LASFS Sacred Chancellor of Chocolate.

invented a couple of LASFSian poker games. 

good art auctioneer

has contributed to many conventions

Patron Saint Sandy Cohen was given three cheers and a monument carved out of chocolate.

Patron Saint Hare Hobbs

Debra Levin: Hare is one of the more interesting people she’s known, and she enjoys talking to him.

Tom Safer: Appreciates he’s an avid book reader and appreciator of good music.

Mark Poliner: Hare was the second person I met when I joined the club. I still came back.

Scott Beckstead: He once had a dachshund, named hors d’ouvre.

Nick Smith: appreciates that he too enjoys obscure music.

Barbara Harmon: Hare must be a speed reader because he does so much.

Matthew Tepper pointed out Hare’s persistence in reading as much as he can is admirable because of the difficulty he had with reading.

Patron Saint Hare Hobbs was given three cheers and an E so he can spell his last name correctly.

David Okamura monitored science for the club.  

Briefly: There have been ups and downs in space.

3 astronauts have made it home from the ISS. They think they have the bugs out of the boosters.

Planetary society lightsail has deployed. It will re-enter probably Sunday. A larger one will be launched next year.

NASA was experimenting with a supersonic parachute. It deployed at 180,000 feet.  It was still supersonic at altitude 0. So they need to tell it it’s supposed to go subsonic at some point.

New Horizon finds the moons of Pluto are not in stable orbits.

China is forging ahead with all sorts of strange experiments, including head transplants.

Old Business, elections run by Christian McGuire: Nominations for President

Matthew Tepper

Nominations for Vice President

Debra Levin


Ed Hooper

Nominations for Scribe

In a stunning development, the incumbent declined to run for a subsequent term.

Is there anyone who can read and write in this room?

It was moved to table the election of Scribe for at least one week until a sacrifice competent volunteer is available.


The tag team of Elayne Pelz and Michelle Pincus was nominated

There being no further nominations, the tag team was elected.

Absolutely Madam Pincus, Positively Madam Pelz.

No New Business


Jerry Pournelle watched the opening episode of Whispers, a SF series on TV. In the first 15 minutes, they had a scene in which there’s a tree house with an 8-year-old girl in the treehouse 50 feet high and accessible by rope ladder.  Obviously there was no child protective services in the vicinity.  The rest of the story may be all right.

Julie saw the episode. The imaginary friend is an entity making the children do terrible things. (Hail, hail, fire and snow…)

Milt Stevens reviewed The Orthogonal Trilogy by Greg Egan. Arrows of time, third volume, read first. Now he has first two books, Clockwork Rocket and Eternal Flame. It’s an interesting story. The book gets the reader involved in the problems of the aliens even though they’re so different from us.

Diaspora, set in a time when our sort of human has become extinct. It covers the birth and development of an AI.

Tom Safer watched the film Magical Mystery Tour. It could have had a plot. The music was nice, though.

Nick Smith read the new Mercedes Lackey book, Hunter. It succeeds in both being SF and Fantasy in a post-apocalypse young adult setting.


Joe Zeff: Some of you may recall I had been on a clinical trial for diabetes medicine. The company that ran the trial gave me a large quantity of diabetes test strips. Last Tuesday night, used the last of the strips he’d been given. Tried to use the strips he had been using these instead of. They’ve expired. More have been ordered, and he can borrow a test kit. He let them know he had run out of the strips they had given him and they invited him to another trial.

Jerry Pournelle: I don’t deal with the VA, and heartily recommend Kaiser.

Got his iPhone 6+. This is as close to the pocket computer he and Niven described in Mote in God’s Eye as it gets. It’s got everything they described in the pocket computers in the book. He’s downloaded a bunch of books over the LASFS wireless.

Hare: Also been a guinea pig. If you can be a guinea pig, please do. It helps other people.

Tom Safer moved to adjourn.

Put chairs away.

It was moved and seconded, and we adjourned to the program at 9:15.
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